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Bad Vaccine Bill on the Fast Track in California

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If it becomes law, California’s SB 277 will likely spread to other states across the country. State-based Action Alerts!

Legislation to eliminate all non-medical vaccine exemptions has cleared the California Senate and is now moving to the state Assembly, where it faces an even easier path to passage. In the Senate, it needed to be voted on by three separate policy committees before going before the full body. Thanks to efforts by Assembly Democrats, the bill will only need to go through one policy committee in the Assembly before getting a full floor vote.

The bill eliminates all non-medical exemptions, including personal belief and religious exemptions, from the requirement that children receive vaccines for certain diseases in order to enroll in any public or private elementary or secondary school or daycare center.

Not only are proponents of SB 277 removing procedural hurdles in the hopes of speeding passage, they are also sending clear messages to those who would stand in their way. The California Chiropractic Association has been an outspoken opponent of the effort to mandate vaccinations. As budget negotiations come to an end for California’s next fiscal year, budget subcommittees from both chambers voted to restore six of seven optional Medi-Cal benefits that are currently unfunded. The one benefit that was left out? Chiropractic services.

Of course, the legislators responsible for leaving chiropractors out of the budget deny allegations that the decision was in retaliation for opposing the vaccine bill. We’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

Legislators speeding this bill to passage are not scientists, yet they’re telling everyone that the scientific evidence is unambiguous—that vaccines are 100% safe, and anyone who believes otherwise is a mentally unbalanced “anti-vaxer.” They believe this gives them the right to take away a parent’s right to make choices about their children’s health. Of course, campaign donations by Big Pharma have nothing to do with it.

In fact, there is ample evidence that suggests vaccines are not without risk and can have a significant impact on children’s health. You don’t have to be against vaccination in general to have doubts about the current vaccination regime, which requires more and more shots to be given at the same time, and at an earlier age than ever before. There are plenty of reasons to reconsider this approach:

  • One study that compared vaccinated to unvaccinated boys found that vaccinated boys were 155% more likely to have a neurological disorder, 224% more likely to have ADHD, and 61% more likely to have autism.
  • A Dutch study found that vaccinated children had higher incidences of a number of illnesses and other health indicators compared to unvaccinated children in the first five years of life. Vaccinated children had high incidences of chronic eczema, allergic reactions, ADHD, ear infections, throat inflammation, and were more likely to be sickly.
  • A study in New Zealand found similar results, with vaccinated children having higher incidences of asthma and eczema, and an astonishing tenfold increase in the likelihood of tonsillitis.

Combine these studies with the slew of other studies we’ve covered in the past, and you begin to wonder at the supposed “scientific consensus” on the safety of the present vaccination regime being touted by those who would remove our freedom of choice.

In light of this significant body of evidence that conflicts with the mainstream narrative about vaccines, parents’ right to make informed choices concerning their own children’s health must be preserved.

Now that the government has removed any legal liability for vaccine manufacturers, and if they continue to subsidize vaccine development and production (thus guaranteeing high profits), and make mandates such as this one with virtually no exceptions, what incentive will the pharmaceutical industry have to invest money to make vaccines safer? What incentive will government have to reconsider the schedule?

Time is running out to stop SB 277. We must send a clear message to legislators in California, as well as all state legislatures that are considering removing exemptions to vaccines, that SB 277 will cause irreparable harm if it becomes law. This concerns all of us: if SB 277 becomes law, it could embolden state and even federal legislators to advance legislation of their own.

Action Alert! California residents, write to your representative in the Assembly and urge them NOT to vote for SB 277! Please send your message immediately

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  • Carole Pateman

    What I fail to understand is WHY the pharmaceutical companies have to push 5-6- or more vaccines into one vaccine and give that to a young baby…I get that it is greed on their part, but can’t they see what this is doing..
    Go back to the old way…One vaccine per illness and cut out this intense delivery system of more and more unnecessary vaccines…I think we had four or five vaccines back in the day as children and most if not all of us are alive to tell the tale. Now isn’t THAT amazing????? Not that much has changed.

    • dhartley231 .

      Heres another shot either your not sick enough or you still need a shot to help with dumbing us all down . The corrupt government is killing us all slowly, and we are dumbed down like dumb asses allowing it to continue on. We need to shut the pharmacuetical /vaccine companies down before they ruin/kill the whole world

  • Walter Pewen

    If you are citing the chiropractic association I’d suggest it’s a big mistake. Not exactly a group I would put my faith in.

    • simonts

      Because you never tried a chiropractor, I bet. The AMA and the phrama-medical complex (rather mafia) has been trying to discredit any “alternative” or traditional medical approach, purely because they want to protect their enormous profits, NOT because they represent your health care interests. They did it with Chinese medicine and herbology (those are now used routinely by such “alternative” medical institution as Harvard Medical School, etc.) chiropractic care, homeoptahy, etc.

      What I do not understand is that the liberal left typically has been very skeptical of corporate propaganda and influence in our government, but they somehow bought into the “science” based propaganda arguments of the vaccine industry, Monsanto regrading GMO, etc. No one in his right mind should believe any studies conducted by corporate paid and owned pseudo “science”. Science, by its very nature, should be independent of financial interests.

      • Walter Pewen

        I saw a chiropractor once, and he seemed sincere, also a money raker, he did very little and billed quite a lot of money. I believe there is some really good work going on in chiropractors, but really a whole bunch of people who may not be very good. Period. I don’t care, if people want to go to them, but this butinsky crap about vaccines? Since when do they even KNOW about vaccinology? My brother took his Ph.D. in it, I will listen to him.
        I’m a VERY left leaning Democrat, and I see big problems in California among the affluent and kid’s vaccines. They are the ones reacting to all this. Yes, there are potential problems, no I”m not buying big pharma’s propaganda. If people need to keep their kids unvaccinated fine, but they had better be willing to face the very real public health issues. I do not have an answer to the current law, it’s a pretty tough one but I was vaccinated as a kid of the sixties and frankly, we did not have all these problems. If there are new ones, let’s deal with them from proper medical people, and they are NOT all in big pharma’s profit.
        To me, much of it resonates as a gay guy who is 57 and made it through AIDS without getting sick. We did what public health told us to do, and it worked. Some idiot M.D. at Berkeley ever wrote a book saying HIV doesn’t cause AIDS (know that one?) plus every crackpot answer under the sun. Was in he original study at UCLA on HIV in 84, etc. Most public health decisions have been good in my lifetime, thank God.
        I don’t care about big pharma, politics or money. I just want to see people well.

        • Eva M

          If you really want to see people well, start with looking into the false “herd immunity” claim, it was never proven true for vaccinations. On the other hand even though it is made very hard for families to file. claims for vaccine related injury $3 billion taxpayer money was paid out.
          Btw when you were vaccinated there were a lot less vaccines.

          • Walter Pewen

            Sounds like the main point is yes, there were fewer vaccines. But years ago, when I started hearing people say the basic ones were never given I felt something was wrong, and it had in great part to do with Republicans loving not spending public health money. Similar to how Reagan as governor conned sincere families of the mentally ill in California with the deinstitutionalization of patients.
            To me, combine fear of traditional medicine with right wing neglect and you have the house caving in. And, I had to live through about half the gay guys in my cohort from college die by 1995. So, I don’t have a lot of patience on the issue.

          • simonts

            Just FYI, I am NOT a Republican and have never supported or voted for any Republican. This should NOT be a partisan issue!!! When one in 80 of the children of our nation is ill with Autism then we as a country have a DUTY to find out the reason and eliminate it, with no regard whatsoever to the enormous profit interest of the pharma-medical complex. And we are NOT doing it, because the FDA, CDC and all other agencies are owned by the plutocracy in general, and the pharma-medical complex in particular.

          • Eva M

            I agree with most of what you said, yes, Reagen started almost everything that is wrong with the country now. But sadly it is not only the Republicans who are in the pocket of big pharma or big agro and big food business etc . Unless we do something to get money out of politics, starting with ending Citizens united, elected officials on both sides are representing their main donors and not us.
            Most people are not afraid of traditional medicine, (we spend twice as much on it per capita as any other country and with dismal results) but we have the to have really independent studies proving that vaccines, GMO-s etc are not harming people, which we don’t.

        • simonts

          Well, I do not go into the AIDS issue you brought up because I have no idea about those.

          You are close to my age, yes we were vaccinated by about 4-5 vaccines as kids. Do you know how many vaccines do children are recommended to get these days? Dozens! It is simply unconscionable, not to mention there is NO research showing that giving a number of vaccines together during the same doctor visit is safe, NONE whatsoever. If you disagree ask you PhD brother to point you to those studies.

          BTW, I am just curious: which company your brother works for?

          The FACT is that autism, ADHD, allergies, etc., have been growing exponentially in our population during the past 30+ years, correlating very well with the increase of mass vaccination. Yes, correlation is very different from causation, BUT, saying that it has nothing to do with vaccination, while not doing any significant credible independent federally funded research on finding out what actually has caused this enormous increase (while spending $600 Billion+ a year on defense) is simply criminal in my opinion.

          • Walter Pewen

            That’s all quite interesting, much of it sounds valid. If what you are doing works for you that’s great.
            But you really demean your case when referencing my brother. He has never worked for a private company, he currently works for a public university in charge of a doctorate medical program. Previously he spent several years in the U.S. Senate working on getting the ACA (Obamacare) passed. So you and I could have insurance coverage. Please think before you type next time.

          • simonts

            I did not accuse your brother with anything unseemly.

            But, the fact is that the pharma-medical complex (similarly to Monsanto and its GMO ilk) spread its financial support and influence extremely boradly across academia. Read about in on the web site of Union of Concerned Scientists, if you are interested. The sad truth is that it is extremely difficult for anyone to get funds for and conduct truly independent research in areas like vaccine/medication side effects or GMO health effects. Serralini and his group for example had to turn to crowd funding to continue doing their studies on GMO effects on health.

          • Walter Pewen

            Look, I am sympathetic. I worked as an undergraduate myself at the Salk Institute. I can pretty much assure you my brother’s work has been out of the reach of it. No need to go further.

        • Richids Coulter

          SOmeone once took a flight, their first one, and it crashed. They survived.

          Will every flight they go on crash and will they survive every time?

          • nobody has the right to put another human being at risk of death but themselves by free will, if you buy an airplane ticket is your choice. But when someone or goverment by the force of law or personal, inject a vaccine to someone elses child, thats not “free will” or by choice! thats medical fascism. your comparision is unequivelent to such risky medical invasive procedure.

          • Walter Pewen

            You are confirming my take on this: A whole lot of people putting a trip on everyone for not liking THEIR trip. Look around. The whole issue is wrapped in a bulldog like stance about defending non-traditional medicine. Leave it alone, I do not care.

          • Nick Name

            That is so unrelated to the question of safe vaccinations I can’t imagine what you are thinking. If I get in a car and don’t get into an accident, I correctly assume I won’t next time. The odds are tiny. Chances of your plane crashing twice are somewhere around 0.00021%

        • backtonature

          Really, you judge the entire chiropractic profession on one visit to one chiropractor? So much for scientific thought. Some of us don’t blindly follow everything we are told to do, particularly when the real science doesn’t support it. I’m 64, got all the vaccines as a child, was sickly as a kid with lots of allergy-related problems. They carried over into adulthood until I was introduced to alternative medicine. I got a lot healthier and stayed that way, so I object to the “one size fits all” approach these days.

          • Walter Pewen

            That’s great, and I’ve heard similar. But you probably are not the norm. The fact that I pushed a couple people’s buttons by giving MY thumbs down is real telling. I have had enough traditional western medicine for stuff that’s widely divergent. None of the specialists I have continued to see would dare to make the claims I’ve seen licensed chiropractors make. You know, since I am Joe Leftie, I find chiropractors much more covetous than MD’s I’ve seen. If it works for you, vaya con Dios.

    • Uncle Chiro

      I’ve been a doctor of chiropractic for nearly 30 years. I’ve seen firsthand what a drug-based “healthcare” system does to our health. 5% of the worlds population taking 50% of all drugs manufactured in the world, and our overall health sucks in comparison with other industrial countries. We’re 40th in the world in our overall health rating. Not an envious record. We’ve been told so many lies for so long, people actually believe the nonsense that is being forced down our throats… Health doesn’t come from the pills you take, it from the way you live, think and move. My two children are 100% unvaccinated and are the healthiest kids any parent could hope for. None of the learning disabilities, ADD/ADHD, autistic spectrum disorders, allergies, type 1 diabetes, etc., that characterized so many of their piers.. You people who believe the “science” and believe all the lies that we’ve been told over generations regarding our need for yet more drugs, shots, pills, surgeries, are the ones who are deluded…

      • Walter Pewen

        That’s fine if it works for you. It never would for me and many others. Can you understand this?

        • Sebastian Vota

          Yes, but no one is telling you not to vaccinate. I do resent my kids having a gun pointed to their heads and being told “take this potentially fatal shot, or be uneducated. Oh, and if anything bad happens, you can’t seek action in the courts against the manufacturers. Who wrote and paid for the law to be introduced”.

          Do you see how that is fundamentally un-american?

          It’s interesting that, as a life long democrat, my party is fine with a woman’s choice to kill her unborn child, but not about what injections are given to one after birth.

          And if vaccines worked, there would be no need for fear and bullying tactics to get 100% of the population vaccinated. If they work for your kid, then you have nothing to fear from my kid.

          By the way, this law would allow a child with measles to attend school, as long as they got the shots that don’t always work. However, a 100% healthy child would be denied an education. Does that make any sense whatsoever?

          • CatKinNY

            Public health laws that mandate quarantine for those at risk of spreading infectious diseases are very American. Ever heard of Typhoid Mary? She spent the last third of her life on an island in the East River after infecting 51 people (three of whom died) and being deemed by NY as a risk to public health. Here’s a prediction: when polio makes a comeback in the US among the children of the anti vaccine crowd (and it will), 85% of the movement will evaporate, rushing their children to pediatricians to get their kids vaccinated. Those who still claim that vaccines don’t work will be shocked at the cries coming from 98% of the population that they and their progeny be placed in concentration camps in the desert. States will take the less extreme approach of severing parental rights, vaccinating children and putting them up for adoption.

            As to the silly argument that those whose children are vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated, it ignores the existence of babies who are too young to be vaccinated and children who are immunocompromised due to cancer treatment or other medical conditions that precludes them from receiving vaccines. If you are going to claim that ‘herd immunity’ is not real, you know nothing about biology, zoology or history, and you sound stupid, crazy and ignorant to those who do – congratulations.

            People send sick kids to school all the time; it’s why we have school nurses. Oftentimes, they are poor and can’t afford to lose a day’s pay, so if the child is not obviously very ill, they take the chance; fortunately, there are very few poor people in the antivax movement, since they don’t have the time to sit around researching internet conspiracies and too much common sense to listen to Jenny McCarthy, who they regard as a glorified stripper. Unlike their upper middle class peers, they actually know strippers in real life and have concluded that for every liberated girl working her way through grad school, there are 1,000 with awful problems who they wouldn’t ask for the time of day. You are essentially complaining that the law does not penalize people for not being clairvoyant when they send a sick child to school because it DOES penalize people who choose to take a risk with their own children that cannot be segregated from imposing a risk on the children of strangers. That’s the definition of a logical fallacy.

            One of the tragedies of life in America today is the general abandonment of the concept of the public good. You believe that the government and the pharmaceutical industry are in a conspiracy to screw the public on vaccines in order to enrich the drug companies. You only believe this because you’ve seen evidence of similar things over the course of the last 35 years or so and lack the medical/historical knowledge to understand the numbers involved in the vaccine business. It’s not a cash cow and would barely exist today without government intervention in the form of subsidies and protection from liability.

            Vaccines and antibiotics take years and billions to develop and have very real limits on what you can charge, because there isn’t a person alive who can’t imagine losing a child because they couldn’t afford $5,000 for treatment. In the 1930s through the 1970s, before the financialization of the American economy that enshrined quarterly stock reports as the only meaningful measure of worth, drug companies were run by people who knew people who had died or been severely disabled by infectious diseases, and that personal experience influenced their behavior. They were motivated by fear and sorrow to fight scourges that afflicted everyone – in other words, the common good as well as the profit margin entered their calculations. Those people are long gone, replaced by people who’ve grown up in a world where infectious disease was largely a non issue and in an ethical atmosphere that has elevated making money to a moral virtue; the results are both deplorable and predictable, but your beliefs are motivated by the same false assumptions. It’s not all about you and your kid, anymore than Smithfield’s shoddy upkeep of a giant pig manure lagoon is only about the company and it’s immediate neighbors when the contents flow into a river that supplies drinking water for millions of people down stream.

            I’m not trying to be mean, just realistic. There is plenty wrong with big pharma – they have gone from being one of the heroic stories of capitalism to one of it’s worst exploiters over the last few decades – and legitimate arguments can be made for cutting back on the number of vaccines in the schedule which would garner support from medical professionals, but when such arguments are mixed up with claims that vaccines don’t work or that the long banished thimerisol is wreaking havoc in children, you lose, period.

          • simonts

            The “anti-vaccine crowd” BS is nothing but pure propaganda. There is a lot of rationale for vaccinating against serious deadly diseases, as we were vaccinated as children (e.g. polio, black pox, TBC, etc.). There is no rational reason to vaccinate, especially in a mandatory way, against MOST of the diseases that our children are vaccinated against today, from rubella, to mumps, to chicken pox to Hepatitis B, to HPV, just to name a few.

          • Eva M

            You do realize that “herd immunity” was never proven to be true for vaccinations, don’t you?

          • CatKinNY

            I realize that you don’t have the vaguest idea of what is meant by the term ‘herd immunity’ because you are thoroughly ignorant of medicine or science but very well versed in conspiracies.

          • Eva M

            LOL.. then show me the study that proved that herd immunity is true with vaccines. It doesn’t exist.. and as making money is the only goal that pharma (or any other corporation) has, no conspiracy needed. They simply want to make more of it and as long as they can legally bribe the legislators and even write the laws they are winning..

          • simonts

            I agree, it would not make sense in any rational sane society. However our society became irrational an hysterical, whether it reacts to a couple of dozen cases of measles or a terrorist attack.

    • Richids Coulter

      Put your faith in the CDC instead then, despite the well documented open door policy with industry (http://www.mercknewsroom.com/news-release/corporate-news/merck-announces-appointment-dr-julie-gerberding-executive-vice-president) and their multi-billion dollar financial conflict of interests (they spend over $4 billion/annually buying vaccines), not to mention they’re in charge of vaccine uptake.

  • Sandi Hornsby White

    Massive Recall Efforts are under way for the Senators who received $$$$ from Pharmaceutical Companies and Ca Medical Association and Communities. Allowing paid lobbyists to speak and silencing my Amendment for Antioxidants and grieving Mother and rushing the bill forward….and, them fast tracking the bill. Mothers are Fed UP! WHO. ORG Sales Marketing Campaign shows vaccine sourced and made on enemy countries….China, Korea, and Russia, and Cuba. How to make certain their TRILLIONS continue is to focus on middle income families and Legislative efforts to secure mandatory vaccines. This is going on at the Congressional levels, too.

  • Nick Name

    Sorry, I fully support vaccinations for children, only not all in one package. If there’s no medical reason for an exemption, I oppose selfish and short-sighted parents putting other children at risk for potentially deadly diseases for purely philosophical objections. The “link” between vaccinations and autism has been shown to be bogus on numerous occasions.

    • simonts

      You have every tight to support vaccination for your own children, BUT NOT for my children. That should be my choice and my choice alone. And do not bring up the fake “herd immunity” argument. Do some research, and if you do you will find that the concept of herd immunity has never been proven based on vaccination based immunity, only for naturally acquired immunity, which are two VERY different things. Furthermore, most of the often cited studies disproving the connection between vaccination and autism was written one guy at the CDC, whose work was discredited because he falsified, distorted and invented data; he is under criminal indictment, the FBI is looking for him (he left the US to avoid arrest).

      • Nick Name

        Wherever you got your “facts” from, they are not supported by reality.

        The original article linking vaccines and autism is the one that was discredited.

        The widespread fear that vaccines increase risk of autism originated with a 1997 study published by Andrew Wakefield, a British surgeon. The article was published in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, suggesting that the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) vaccine was increasing autism in British children.

        The paper has since been completely discredited due to serious procedural errors, undisclosed financial conflicts of interest, and ethical violations. Andrew Wakefield lost his medical license and the paper was retracted from The Lancet.

        Nonetheless, the hypothesis was taken seriously, and several other major studies were conducted. None of them found a link between any vaccine and the likelihood of developing autism.

        Meanwhile, in the recent outbreak of whooping cough In 2010, California saw 9,120 cases of whooping cough, more than any year since the whooping cough vaccine was introduced in the 1940s. Ten infants too young to be vaccinated died of whooping cough during the outbreak.

        Your “freedom” to exclude your kids from a well-established and safe preventive measure puts all children at risk, not just your own.

        • simonts

          Andrew Wakefield has been character assassinated by the pharmacy-medical mafia, just like Serralini has been, and just like Pusztai has been. Most if not all peer reviewed medical publications are owned and operated by that mafia.

    • Sebastian Vota

      If you believe vaccines are right for your child, and you vaccinate them, how are they “at risk” from someone who is only partially vaccinated, or not at all?

      The “link”between autism and vaccination was just PROVEN, by the CDC no less, but they FALSIFIED THE DATA. Have you not heard of #cdcwhistleblower?

    • Richids Coulter

      No study has ever compared rates of autism between fully vaccinated and never vaccinated individuals, you believe the link has been debunked because that’s what industry talking heads and the mainstream media tell you.

      The reason for philosophical exemptions is quite simple, there is no test that can tell you whether or not you will suffer a rare but serious adverse reaction following vaccination. No test could have told the Black family that their daughter Angelica’s 3-month shots would result in her permanent brain damage (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/health-family/article11620775.html) and injury of a sibling is not grounds for a medical exemption for a sibling, what you’re saying is you don’t support the Black family after experiencing this tragedy of choosing not to vaccinate successive children. That’s mind-boggling.

    • NewsDebunker

      “I oppose selfish and short-sighted parents putting other children at risk for potentially deadly diseases for purely philosophical objections”

      What if the philosophical objection is bundled with an opinion driven by years of successfully using scientifically-proven alternative methods of immune-building which isn’t recognized by YOUR doctor. Your point of view that there’s only one method to protect the body from illness is driven by corporate science, researched without comparing to other alternative methods, and then spoon-fed to you by biased doctors who receive compensation for vaccinating patients and have never been educated on other successful forms of medicine. This is called ignorance, especially considering many vaccinated children were identified as the ones who actually spread some outbreaks, and some vaccines do in fact state that the manufacturer has never tested the product for immunity.

    • NewsDebunker

      Are you ok with the state dictating which medical procedure or medicine you should get next time you’re hurt or doctor feels concerned for your mental well-being based on something you said? What if you read a study that concerns you about the state’s preferred treatment, but don’t have a medical reason for objecting? Sorry bud, but I hope you get what the state thinks you deserve.

      • Free2BUandMe

        By taking away someone’s right to say no today, you are giving away your right to say no tomorrow.

    • Free2BUandMe

      Hey Nick Name, children are at risk regardless of whether or not any other child is vaccinated. If there were no risk there would be no market for the vaccine.

      I oppose people trying to force their opinions on my family by holding hostage my child’s right to an education, whether it be in a public or private school, as SB277 does.

  • simonts

    “The government data show that, since 1988, the VICP has awarded almost
    $3 billion to over 4,000 families who were harmed by vaccines—even
    though the window to file a claim is so tight that many families miss
    it, and it is often hard to demonstrate a connection between the shot
    and the ensuing health issue. In addition, the Department of Health and
    Human Services’ Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) receives
    an average of 30,000 reports each year,
    13% of which are considered “serious”—that is, associated with
    “disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death.” The
    government’s Center for Disease Control (CDC) dismisses these reports
    because they are not “peer reviewed,” but also refuses to provide the
    peer review needed.”

    13% of 30,000 is about 4,000 serious injuries due to vaccination. That is about the number of deaths alleged to be cause by the HPV virus, against which mandatory vaccination of teenage girls (and now also boys) have been considered, based on the relentless lobbying of the vaccine industry and due to it paying off and buying our spineless clueless “representatives”. Furthermore, paying out $3Billion awards for families whose chidren suffered serious damage including death due to vaccination in itself proves that vaccines “have been proven harmless” is a lie.

    • Nick Name

      I can find no evidence of a $3 billion settlement paid to families harmed by vaccine. I find quite a bit of dismissed cases, and ones that seem to motivated by opportunistic lawyers. Do you have a source for your claim?

      • simonts

        Information on the number of claims made to the VICP, and the number of those claims that were compensated, through 2013, are available on the government’s website.

        Google “National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program
        Monthly Statistics Report” and you will get a pdf document with all the compensation data broken down by type of vaccines, year, etc.

        • Nick Name

          Quite right, The total is all payments since 1988. Of these, a grand total of 370 were for MMR vaccine. That’s over a 27 year period, out of a total of 73 MILLION doses administered from 2006 to the present. Influenza vaccinations paid a total of 1100 over the same period,
          Your odds seem to be similar to being struck by lighting. Better stay indoors, too.

          • Calvin Johnson

            i don’t have a choice over whether i am struck by lightning or not. but i do have a choice not to be injected with mercury. every one should have their own choice. we don’t need more policies and codes enforced under “color of law”.

          • Nick Name

            Mercury was removed from all vaccines except flu years ago. Not that a link to any negative conditions was ever demonstrated.

          • simonts

            Wrong. Thimerosal/mercury is in every multi-dose vaccine for preservation purposes.

          • Nick Name

            According to government records, all mercury was removed from MMR vaccine years ago, although it remains in the flu vaccines (Another reason I never get a “flu shot.”) Better check your sources.

          • Calvin Johnson

            I am not going to take your word for it. any way, its still my body and I will decide what goes into it, not a group of government flunkies who vote for the highest paying lobbyist. you can take all of it if you love the idea so much. good luck to you
            .

          • Calvin Johnson

            I am not going to take your word for it. where is the documentation? I saw where a newborn was given vaccines at birth and the infant needed to be 275 lbs to safely absorb that much mercury. This was in a report by a DOCTOR. So I call BULLCRAP

          • Nick Name

            I’m not going to take your word for it either. Lots of BULLCRAP on the internet. What doctor? Where is your documentation? Or is it more fear-mongering?

          • Calvin Johnson

            Since you are not a doctor I am done with you. I already stated that me and my family WILL NOT get vaccines. I have the right to decide for myself and my kids and no one is going to force us with some friggin code enforced under color of law. I have found other families that agree. we will fight their “codes”. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

          • Nick Name

            I don’t really care what you do, it’s your kids who may have to pay the price. Like many people who cannot justify their position, you’re free to take your marbles and go home. And, in fact, I AM a doctor.

          • Nick Name

            Yes you do. Just go stand under a tree or in an open field during a lightning storm. No guarantee, but the odds go way up. Or, you could go indoors and stay safer. Like you can get your child immunized.

          • Calvin Johnson

            they got trolls and shills EVERYWHERE! no matter what you say, i dont want more codes and policies enforced onto me under color of law. stick that in your vaccine hypo and inject it. good day

          • simonts

            Same as no one would argue that lightning is proven harmless no one should argue, based on the data, that vaccination is harmless. It has proven harmful side effects, including death, and no one has the right to force me, or anyone, to take the risk, no matter how small it is. Not to mention that only a small fraction of the side effects are reported, as there is no reporting mandate (it might harm industry profits and the CDC would never let that happen). I wonder what your opinion would be about the small risk if your child would become one of the “few” victims and died after vaccination.

          • Eva M

            By using your logic in the 70-s and before people were more likely to be struck by lighting than die from smoking.

  • LindaRivera

    Vaccines are filled with deadly toxic poisons specifically designed to damage the bodies and brains of all who get their filthy, satanic vaccines. It’s so much easier to control people who have been weakened in their bodies and brains. It’s all part of the New World Order.

    The vaccine manufacturers gain undreamt of wealth, laughing all the way to the bank over the destroyed lives of mega millions.

    • kkc003

      ever notice the flu vaccine never has the right flu ever, I have been following this for decades and they have yet to provide facts with the correct flu or how it helped 1 person.
      I would never vaccinate-
      they don’t put ingredients on vaccinations or prove that its beneficial- then they are hiding something.

    • Nick Name

      Ridiculous propaganda based on paranoia. “Deadly toxic poisons” is nonsense. Your “New World Order” is right-wing fear mongering. Get a grip.

      • simonts

        Wait, what?? You LOVE vaccines, and want to force them on everyone by mandate, but would never get a flu vaccine? Hypocrisy much? I agree that cancer drugs, statins, etc., are a MUCH bigger and richer racket for the pharma-medical mafia than vaccines are.

        • Nick Name

          I don’t love vaccines any more than I love speeding tickets. But if I want to stay alive and safe on the roads, I’m happy to have the protection against bad drivers and inconsiderate speeders.
          It’s not hypocrisy to choose not to get a treatment I don’t need against an illness I have plenty of resistance to. And if I do catch the flu, I can deal with it. I’ve had it before. Misinterpret other people’s positions much?

          • simonts

            So….let’s see. you want to have the right tor refuse to be vaccinated against flu because you believe that you can deal with it and I assume also because you KNOW that the flu vaccination has proven side effects, some very serious, not to mention very limited efficacy. You are right to make that choice, I have been making the same choice for as long as I can remember. But, then, if I believe that my child who has been raised well, eats the right healthy nutritional food, exercises, etc., “can deal” with standard normal childhood diseases, like chicken pox, or rubella or measles, as I did when I was a child, it is somehow not OK to say that I believe that those vaccines are not needed and I want to opt out of them. Your response just proved my point about hypocrisy.

  • disqus_wzVx3A6agx

    We’ll,
    Here is another bill written to help the pharmaceutical corporations get richer.

    It is the RIGHT of all American citizens to live in a country NOT RULED BY CORPORATE GREED.

    We Americans are loosing our rights because certain leaders are allowing Corporations to put PROFIT over the HEALTH and SAFETY of American Citizens.

    WHAT KIND OF LEADERSHIP IS THIS? !!!!!!!!

    When our rights get taken away,
    that weakens the democracy of the United States.

    These leaders keep trying to

    TAKE AWAY OUR HEALTHCARE.

    TAKE AWAY OUR SOCIAL SECURITY.

    TAKE AWAY OUR PENSIONS.

    BLOCK THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

    FORCE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS TO PAY OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS THE TAX MONEY THAT CORPORATIONS SHOULD BE PAYING.

    This is just the tip of the iceberg and
    the list goes on an on.

    As corporations demand to get richer, our leaders try to take more of our rights away.

    Lately I have been seeing more and more statements on the internet from people who are saying that If our rights continue to be taken from us then it could eventually lead to another civil war in the United States.

    That frightens me.

    Hitler came to power in a democracy with a highly liberal constitution, and in part by using democratic freedoms to undermine and then destroy democracy itself.

    This might sound like another one of those annoying Hitler comparison.

    BUT the corporate domination that is taking place in our country right now
    Is very similar to the change that took place in Germany.

    You can see why many of us Americans are becoming
    very nervous over this.

    SENATOR RAND PAUL, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS, AND FORMER GOVERNOR MARTIN O’MALLEY ARE FIGHTING THIS OUTRAGEOUS CORPORATE CORRUPTION IN OUR COUNTRY AND ALL THREE OF THEM ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

    If you love living in a free country then you should be working to help stop this outrageous corporate take over of the United States instead of supporting it.

    • BlogZilla

      It’s not leadership. This country is turning into Hitler’s Germany, just in a different and more stealthful way.

  • bev

    Did you know that the CDC currently recommends 49 doses of 14 vaccines before the age of 6…starting with Hep B on the day of birth? Plus, more before the age of 18. If we are forced to get all of these for our children and unable to get exemptions for medical, religious, or philosophical reasons, then we will also be forced to receive every new vaccines that is in the pipeline as we speak. This year, more than 100 bills have been introduced in almost every state to severely restrict or completely eliminated vaccine exemptions. In addition, they have established adult vaccine guidelines that will take away our civil liberties and human rights as well. Just like some who smoke get lung cancer, so, too, some who get vaccines get adverse reactions. One size does not fit all, especially when it comes to vaccines for infants. These decisions should remain in the hands of the parents and their doctors, not the government.

    Check the CDC website for graphs of all the vaccines recommended and how often, so much more than even 20 years ago.

    If you are against forced medical procedures like vaccines, contact your state legislators and say no! Our bodies, our choice whether to selectively vax, delay vax, or non vax.

  • Nick Name

    MMR vaccine costs around $100 if you have no insurance at all. If you have children, you need to get health insurance which will cover the cost. Otherwise all your complaining is a cover for your lack of responsibility.
    MMR has been around for over 50 years, long before autism was diagnosed. Any symptoms before 12 months are unrelated, as infants normally don’t get immunized until that age.
    The CDC has a 21 page list of peer-reviewed research studies in professional journals that demonstrate no link between MMR vaccine and autism. These are not opinion pieces from some amateur website or fear-mongering posts from untrained individuals. Check with Wikipedia for more details.

    • Eva M

      Almost… MMR hasn’t been around for more than 50 years, it was combined first in 1971 (50 years ago mumps and rubella vaccine didn’t exist) and autism rates started to go up in the 70-s.

  • Nick Name

    Your argument is specious. Lots of people have unvaccinated children at home (too young, or immunocompromised, for example) who can easily be infected by a sibling bringing the virus home from an unprotected child at school. How about pregnant women? The vaccines work. Just look up the reported cases over the last 40 years. Ready to see polio or smallpox come back? Don’t vaccinate your kids, and see what happens.

    • Wondering Woman

      get off the kool aid – lots of smart parents these days rush to expose their pre school children to a real natural case of the measles – because it is much milder in childhood and it also grants lifetime immunity to the measles – which the vaccine does not and this Nick Name, is why most of those new measles cases are among more of the vaccinated, than among the unvaccinated.
      Another factor to consider is that the vaccinated mothers do not have the natural antibodies to pass onto their infants, even if they succeed in breast feeding. What is this going to do to future generations????

      • Nick Name

        At least my kool-aid is supported by medical science and 60 years of research and experience. Unlike yours.

        • Wondering Woman

          Backed up by lies, propaganda and exposed by whistleblowers. Look up truth the UK is now releasing on it.
          Look up fact that claims of vaccine injuries have skyrocketed during past year.
          Want some real historical proof look up health problems of those vaccinated compared to the same of the unvaccinated children.

          • Nick Name

            No doubt vaccination carries risk, like any medical treatment. Children are now deathly allergic to peanuts, which didn’t exist when I was a child. But looking up those ideas provides no proof, such as a well researched study, that demonstrates disease causality. Many of those sites have their own axes to grind. People even make the idiotic claim that vaccines didn’t cure polio and smallpox. Lawyers efforts to maximize their incomes mean nothing, especially at a time when lawsuits are advertized on TV.

            Calling all medical institutes and trained physicians “liars” and “propagandists” shows the gullibility of those who have little more than opinion to support their claims.

        • simonts

          No, your kool-aid is only supported by pharma-medical propaganda, which is very different from science.

        • NewsDebunker

          Sorry, but you’re science is not the only science- it’s just the science preferred by the pharmaceutical companies. Would it be good business to promote all the other scientific research which demonstrates exactly what your science does without using their products, but costs the patient a fraction?

    • simonts

      NO ONE can force me to put my children into harms way to help those few example children you mention. The law in our nation is that no one can force anyone to save a life. It is and has to be a matter of choice in any free society.

      You trust you immune system to protect you from influenza, yet, a number of old people with compromised immune system can die from influenza and you may be the one who infected them. So based on all your posts here you should be forced to get vaccinated against flu every year.

  • NewsDebunker

    One vital consideration left out of this debate is that people have the right to choose which method of building immunity is best. Scientific research has clearly showed that there are other proven alternatives, by mandating vaccinations the state is choosing to promote one avenue of science over another- and it seems very motivated by profit and influence.

  • NewsDebunker

    Supporters don’t seem to understand that by using the state to force others to receive their preferred method of protection against illness, they are also allowing the state to dictate which way to treat their children who are told they have issues with mental health. Don’t come crying back!

    • Free2BUandMe

      By taking away someone’s right to say no today, you are giving away your right to say no tomorrow.

  • backtonature

    I don’t but I perform a risk analysis for my family. Public health, by definition, means than some are going to lose for the good of all. If some suffer or die, well, that’s unfortunate. I think many who object to forced multi-vax are those who think, well, the ones who suffer or die are not going to be my family members, particularly when the risk is much greater for the vaccine than for the disease. And I agree with them.