The Alliance For Natural Health
  • Americium Dream Documents

    pol/healthcare/a monopoly for ethyl EPA:
    . the triglyceride form of distilled EPA is better anyway;
    who cares if they restrict the ethyl form.

    • natural lover

      It is the principle of this and that is that it is taking one more natural item away from the american public and making it a hard to get “drug” Removing one more choice for those that want a natural approach to our health. If this goes then ultimately so will all the natural products!!

      • J Malluf

        Also, we may not get organic oils and they could also put additives and other pollutants in our oils and we would be left with no choices

    • guestimate

      I care about all unnecessary restrictions, are you a tool?

      • Americium Dream Documents

        I’m certainly not a tool of Big Pharma;
        but I’m not a tool at all:
        I spend time fighting only for
        the restrictions that are real;
        nobody should be using ethyl fish oil;
        so it is not a real restriction.

        • Belinda Eastmond

          What is ethyl fish oil, where does it come from, and why should nobody be using it? This issue is new to me, and I want to learn about it.

  • J Malluf

    this means we could be subjected to additives, or anything they want to do to the fish oil and we would have no choices.

    • Belinda Eastmond

      “They” meaning Amarin, if they win the case?

  • archer

    As the seen and unseen darkness performs corruptions against everything God created, we who are in one God must shine His light on the good fights. Pray and watch who created us, mercifully deliver us with majestic victories. I believe it is the season for every reason Stay hot and salted we are one in faith, blessed in Jesus Christ Amen

  • Carol Ann Berkeley

    Please ban the fish oil

    • Belinda Eastmond

      Ban fish oil? Why? And what will replace it? What exactly are you suggesting?

  • Justinian

    These companies see what other companies like GOOGLE are doing with monopolies and getting away with it. So they also want to create a monopoly, for control and price fixing.

    • Belinda Eastmond

      Nothing new here. The pharmaceutical companies have effectively been operating a monopoly for decades – there are several companies, but they don’t compete, they collude.

  • willie raymond mason

    Be Healthy Naturally.

    • Belinda Eastmond

      That’s a fine slogan, but what does it mean? Is fish oil natural, or should we get our omega-3 solely from eating fish? What about people who can’t get fish regularly? On the other hand, if fish oil supplements are natural, then what exactly is unnatural about the omega-3 supplements Amarin wants to ban?

  • Michael A

    I signed the petition, but fish oil is not the best sea source of omega 3’s. Better to take Krill Oil or Squid oil, sometimes known as Calamari Oil. Do an internet search to verify.

    • Belinda Eastmond

      How do these compare with fish oil in terms of sustainability, if everyone were to make the switch? Aren’t sources such as algae preferable in that respect?

      • Michael A

        Hi, Belinda, thanks for replying.

        I don’t know about the sustainability issue, but there seems to be no shortage of krill or squid. As for krill, according to my reading, it is so plentiful that it represents the greatest biomass on the planet. Plus, it’s a bottom feeder, so they are practically toxin free.

        The Omega-3 in krill oil is much more bioavailable than in fish oil. Plus, you’re getting more pure DHA, the really important Omega-3.

        There are vegan/vegetarian sources for omega-3 from algae, if that is your preference, Do an internet search to find out who and where they are.

        • Belinda Eastmond

          Considering our ongoing population explosion and burgeoning demand for products from the ocean, I wouldn’t count on that “no shortage” of either to last long if they catch on. And krill is pretty near the basis of all life in the ocean – if we over-harvest it, it would be really bad. That said, it’s certainly better than overfishing as we’ve been doing!
          I didn’t know that omega-3 from krill is more bioavailable than from fish. That’s good news, too! But why is that? Is there a difference in the omega-3, or in the other factors naturally occuring in the oil, or what?

          • Michael A

            There is a difference in the DHA. I get a daily health newsletter from a Dr. Al Sears in South Palm Beach, Florida. He’s a nutritionally oriented M.D. He’s got great supplements, but the cost is out of my budget, so I get the ingredients and find them elsewhere, cheaper. Anyway, here’s a brief quote from one of his recent newsletters on DHA:

            “You see, krill delivers DHA in phospholipid form, rather than the triglyceride form you get in fish oil.

            Phospholipid DHA is much easier for your body to digest and your cells to absorb. Studies back it up: krill oil delivers higher levels of DHA and EPA into your tissues and organs where you need it the most.

            And it’s what you absorb that counts, not how much you take.

            In contrast, fish oil triglycerides are tough to break down. That’s why you get the stinky burps. Worse, much of fish oil omega-3s can simply pass through your system unabsorbed.”

            I haven’t heard of any krill shortage or that they’re endangered. Plus, most folks just aren’t into getting high grade nutrition. You can get good krill oil fairly reasonably, so there’s no shortage in the marketplace.

            I don’t know what the bioavailability is of vegan omega 3 supplements that are from algae. You might want to research that.

            I hope this helps!

          • Belinda Eastmond

            Thanks for the info! I’m not vegan, just wondering if plant sources might be more sustainable than even krill.
            How do I know I’m getting “good” krill at the store? I’m currently taking flaxseed oil to avoid those stinky burps, but flaxseed hasn’t been tested for effectiveness, I understand.

  • Belinda Eastmond

    I did a little research, and found that what they are wanting to ban are “synthetically produced omega-3 products,” that is, omega-3 that doesn’t come from fish. There are several issues here that I see (and probably more that I don’t). First, it is generally preferable to have the “real thing” in food or supplements, with a minimum of processing. But wouldn’t that stance mean we shouldn’t use calcium supplements or vitamin-C supplements? I’m not sure that’s an appropriate restriction, given that some people have a genuine need for megadoses of certain vitamins or minerals.
    Second, if Amarin succeeds in getting the omega-3 product banned, would that lead to an import ban (and possibly eventually a domestic ban) on other synthesized supplements such as vitamin C or D?
    Does anybody know how this synthesized omaga-3 is different from that contained in fish oil, anyway? Is there any dispute over its chemical composition and structure? Or is Amarin just claiming that the omega-3 alone doesn’t do the job? Is anybody on this thread knowledgeable enough to answer these questions?

    • Americium Dream Documents

      I’m disputing what you said here:
      ( “synthetically produced omega-3 products,”
      that is, omega-3 that doesn’t come from fish.
      ). they get fatty acids from fish;
      see this from nutrasea in canada:
      ( How are ethyl esters produced?
      EPA and DHA in ethyl ester form are highly refined omega-3 fatty acids that are created by reacting free fatty acids (FFA) with ethanol in a process called trans-esterification. This process involves removing the glycerol backbone of triglyceride fish oil, resulting in FFA and a free glycerol molecule. An ethanol molecule is then attached to each of the FFA, creating ethyl esters.
      The resulting ethyl esters allow for the concentration of the omega-3 long chain fatty acids at lower temperatures. This process (molecular distillation) allows for the selective concentration of EPA and DHA to levels greater than found naturally in fish
      [Breivik, H., H. G.G., and B. Kristinsson, Preparation of highly purified concentrates of eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid.
      JAOCS, 1997. 74(11): p. 1425-29.].
      The resulting ethyl ester concentrate of EPA and DHA is subsequently marketed and sold as “fish oil concentrate.”
      Are all fish oil concentrates ethyl esters?
      Manufactured ethyl ester concentrates can be converted back to the natural triglyceride form using enzymes in a process called glycerolysis. Food-grade enzymes separate the ethanol molecule from the fatty acid, creating a FFA and a free ethanol molecule.
      When glycerol is reintroduced to the solution, the enzymes then re-esterify the fatty acids back onto a glycerol backbone, creating triglyceride oil. These oils are commonly referred to as re-esterfied (or reformed) triglycerides, which have identical structures to natural triglycerides but with higher concentrations of the desired fatty acids, EPA and DHA.
      The process of converting ethyl esters back to triglycerides is costly, and is therefore bypassed by many fish oil manufacturers. In fact, the vast majority of fish oil concentrate softgels sold globally—including those sold in North America—are ethyl ester concentrates. Only a small percentage of fish oil concentrate softgels on the market are true triglyceride oils.
      While fish oil softgels are commonly found in ethyl ester form, the majority of liquid fish oil products sold in North America are in triglyceride form. Liquid ethyl ester products are not widely used because they degrade faster and are characterized by a more intense fishy flavour, making them less palatable for consumers.

    • Americium Dream Documents

      I’m disputing what you said here:
      ( “synthetically produced omega-3 products,”
      that is, omega-3 that doesn’t come from fish.
      ). they get their fatty acids from fish.

  • Regina Coker

    If krill oil is overfished, then it affects whale dietary needs.